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What is your approach during DCCV if you have an obese patient with atrial fibrillation refractory to up to 3, 360 J shocks?
Would you then opt for double vector DCCV to deliver 2, 360J shocks simultaneously, and/or bolus with amiodarone?
Answer from: at Community Practice
The main question is are we sure there is a cardioversion and not just a quick recurrence. If it is a recurrence, would use AAD like amio. If not capturing myocardium, would use another vector or use 2 synced shocks (and 360 biphasic if you have that).
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Answer from: at Academic Institution
To some degree it depends on what happened with the first three shocks, (I would have applied pressure to shorten the AP diameter for the second and/or third).
If the patient converted but it didn't stick, I would consider AAD loading followed by a repeat procedure.
If the patient did not a...
Answer from: at Community Practice
Assuming the question is not about management of ERAF and the patient did NOT convert at all, we are dealing with defibrillation threshold, not maintaining of SR post CV.
Then, you have to apply science to improve the current density going through the chamber you are trying to defibrillate (for AFI...
Answer from: at Community Practice
Agree with the above comments. I also would consider the addition of ibutilide with mag. The "dueling defibrillator" technique works, but the more important question is if sinus rhythm in such obese patients will be maintained long term. How about rate control, and weight loss (by whatever means -GL...
Answer from: at Community Practice
We’re fortunate to have a 360 biphasic device which generally works for obese patients. If not working the first time, I apply pressure on the second attempt. If there is conversion and reversion, I would stop at 3 and add AED for a couple of weeks then try DCCV again.
If no conversion ...
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at Cardiovascular Institute At Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Try internal or hybrid Cardioversion.
Try internal or hybrid Cardioversion.
Answer from: at Academic Institution
I had better luck with biphasic.
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at Heart And Vascular Center Of Arizona
Great point on the likelihood of maintaining sinus...
Great point on the likelihood of maintaining sinus...
Answer from: at Academic Institution
Try anterolateral pad position.
Answer from: at Academic Institution
I open with AP placement of the pads, so if the patient doesn't cardiovert with 360J x 2:
If the patient converts but it doesn't stick, consider AED and revisiting a cardioversion.
If they don't convert then I will place a second set of pads in the sternoapical position to shock with 720 Joules ...
Answer from: at Community Practice
No point in doing repeated cardioversions. These patients simply do not hold NSR.
Choose a different strategy.